After three years of my previous interview with Victor Life from Focekwulf 190 I got another chance to talk with Victor about present and future of FW190. With always present kindness of Victor as well as his straightforward way of talking he is a great person to talk with and understand the music. In the last three years, with the new evolved sound, I have also got my personal opinion that among Italo Disco fans exist those who like FW190 "mysterios" sound and those who doesn't, there are no between. For the end I asked Victor to tell about FW190 sound on his way, no matter he thinks that others should "judge" and talk about FW190 sound, not him. This new interview, again in my personal view ;-) showing all great present and near future of FW190 sound with many surprises. Enjoy reading!
Hi Victor and thank you very
much again for the new interview! Victor, three years past since our last chat.
Many things happened and it is definitely the time to talk about all nice and,
probably ;-) bad things in your music adventure. First of all, are there any
changes in the band?
Yes, a lot of things happened in the last few years, everything evolves in the musical universe. We transformed into an electro-band that finally really works. The new singer Arys Noir completed the sound of Fockewulf 190 and Jonny Faith's guitar is fundamental in the live shows.
What happened with annouened
Electrum Lux album which have not been released yet?
The publishing of the album Electrum Lux was meant to happen in 2008, but the retirement from the musical scenes of Dario delayed the project. I really wanted to publish the ep single 12'' "oh oh oh" in 2009 and i have to say the response from the audience in England was fantastic. My greatest satisfaction was to transform a negative situation into an amazing and unexpected moment .
You have been announced that
album and it should contain Gitano new version (which have been released on
Oh Oh Oh vinly in 2009 in the meantime), and cover of Kraftwerk's The Model,
which should be released soon. Victor, some fans, I don't know how many, are
not satisfied with version of Gitano released on Oh Oh Oh vinly? What do you
say about this?
For the audience, the original version of an historical song is always the better, but the artist has the professional duty to offer always something different, or it will be something without any sense. In the beginning the diversity is seen as a lackness, but in the end it will reveal as a positive force, for the ones able to read between the lines and listen to music with enthusiasm. Unfortunately there wasn't enough time to record the new Gitano with Dario as i would have wanted. At the time is was working with Dea Lux and i already had announced the record to the press. Everything happened real quick. "oh oh oh" was really appreciated and they invited us to play in London. Dea had an interesting voice, but she wasn't ready for such an important task as being the lead singer. Luck and the sensibility of my wife elektra, producer of the fockewulf project along with me, helped me and i met arys. A stage animal with an extraordinary talent and along with jonny, after a few months of rehearsing, we flew to london for the magic waves festival.
It was a huge success. As you can see not everyone thinks in the same nostalgic way. We got back to italy trusting our chances and we presented live at the black hole and the zoe club, the we started working in studio for the new single ep. The model should be published by the end of december for the delivery records. I let myself being droved by feratho and his friends great enthusiasm, i think it's the best way to preview our fans, before publishing the album electrum lux, the new voice of arys, wich really represents the elegant and powerful stile of the fockewulf 190. Off course dario is present to in the model, in the cover of the great kraftwerk and in quiet man, the unreleased track of the ep. His voice really fit together with the arys' one, giving the band an androgynous depth that maybe before was missing. In the new record i wanted to work with fred ventura to show our fans our performance in london, with body heat, that will be included in the ep in 3 different version, thanks to the remix of the sound master maurizio piazza; i'm happily workin with him for about 2 years now. But the surprises aren't finished. The 8 tracks of the model will include the cover of the fantastic "cars" by gary numan, with a divine interpretation by arys and a different version of the friend alberto styloo, who i really admire for his stilistic elegance.
There were significant changes
in style of original 80's material?
Off course, i think it's really visible the changing. Already in "Oh Oh Oh" with tracks like "Magic World" or "In My Soul" we reached the real sound of the band, that electronic mysticism i was telling you about 3 years ago. I readed very good reviews and i'm happy about how i produced it. Arranging Dario's vocal lines was a pleasure, even if his retirement was very painfull for me. I gathered up many things in the last years with him and this material will be published anyway, he deserves it. And now that i discovered Arys we are ready to surprise our fans once again.
Please, would you explain to
us your view and thoughts on FW190 today's music and specifically on new Gitano?
I say that i'm in love with Arys voice. I see in her Dario's talent from the old good days. She will conquer the audience like she did with me. Fockewulf's music didn't change very much in the sintetic spirit of sound. It simply evolved because it's living a new creative phase.
Gitano made history and keeps on doing it. The proof is that everyone is still talking about it. Now is different and it will change again, every time we will play it live. It's an androgynous being, yesterday was male, today is female, maybe one day i will make it an alien, with the vocoder and just 4 arches of arrangement. I don't even exclude taking it back to the origins. The truth is that i would have wanted to take Dario with us in London, to sing Gitano with Arys, like i did with Fred in Body Heat. It would have been great... But in the future, who knows ?...
What would be your answer to
fans who are not satisfied with new Gitano?
I think i already answered them. But are you sure they are a lot ? There are people thinking the other way around, that's for sure, probably the ones less linked to italo disco and more to the new wave and new electro. I think that italo disco was borned in 77 and died in 84, with two masterpieces: from Here To Eternity by Moroder and Gitano by Fockewulf 190. Everything in the middle was just commercial dance, made for selling, off course with some great and lovely exceptions. To the ones who criticize the new Gitano, i say that it makes me laugh because also when it was originally published, after Body Heat, wasn't appreciated at the beginning and only time showed that we were right. Gitano is destined to bring many other surprises !
Victor, in my humble opinion
I think that FW190 got strong positive wind to push forward on Magic Waves festival
in London in 2009, am I right?
I think so, it was a huge comeback for the Fockewulf to present Oh Oh Oh in London. I thank James DJ Casionova, Ali Renault and all the other guys and staff of the festival... Evidently someone really liked the new Gitano, ahahahaha.
Would you tell us more
about that festival and your impressions there?
Musically speaking, i adore England for the ability of its people to love music at every level. They were amazing and made me feel great, like ziggy stardust. For them if you go on stage and make the best you can do, you're an hero. While someone remained at home sleeping, i understood in London that the audience is by my side. 2011 will be an important year for the Fockewulf 190. In autumn finally Electrum Lux should be published, an album destined to being talked about for a long time. In March will be published a special collection of material of the most dark and misterious years of the Fockewulf, Microcosmos 82-86, for the prestigious German label Vinyl On Demand, specialized in archive music of cult electronic artists. Finally Fockewulf 190's fans will be able to hear original demos that should have been transformed into the famous and never published album in the 80s.
|Victor, how would
you describe your music, with your own words?
Very often they ask me to describe Fockewulf 190's music. honestly I find this a little ridiculous , I always thought that it's superficial for an artist to talk about his own music. To spend many words to make the audience understand our sonoric message, for me it's like having an unconscious weakness wich makes the artist a perfect amateur. this aspect only shows the need of giving himself airs, to cover up in fancy way a lackness of creative ideas. I think that the artist should not use an intelectual language, but he has to act as sound preacher, a spritual initiate who transmits what he receives from the various dimension like a cosmic radio antenna, produce emotions, manifest his desire and astral vibration and make them avalaible for the audience. if you are able to make the people dream and engage all the other listening antennas, then you can creat a world destined to plasm materia, make social changes and more deeply produce authentic miracles in the universe. As fans in our adolescence we were deeply attracted by glam rock and post punk movements, our musical imaginary was born thanks to the heroes of that time and when we started playing in 1980 we were in the full synth pop era; our dandysm found its own natural artistic representation. We always used our image as simbolic force, a mirror reflecting our spirituality.
The Fockewulf 190 project was created as a shape equal to a substance, experimental analogyc electronic music connected to the theatrical and mimic power of rock and the romantic and esthetic force of the electronic dance of thr 80s. We translated those expressive channels with the force of a psychedelic mind folded into a magic and evocative world, an profound research into ourselves. This personal and futuristic mistycism originated the dark side of italo disco with the success of Body Heat and Gitano in 1984, something that was never seen and heard before in Italy, and not only there. I always considered Dario Dell'Aere the biggest italian talent of a certain type of pop music, a genious in his instintive form wich went forward the technical matters, an innovator in his way to play the role of singer. When we were ready for the next step, we were stopped by the italian producers; they were unable to understand the innovative essence of the band. The publishing , 25 years later and thanks to Frank Maier of the Vinyl On Demand, of what should have been our first album in 1986, "Microsmos", shines a light on the sonic creativity of the Fw 190, also because it's a record composed only by simple original demos; something pure and synthetic, uncontamined by commercial compromises. Then, when the real new album "Electrum Lux" will be published, the circle will be complited; I consider that record a professional evolution of the first. The audience will finally be able to appreciate the true face of the Fockewulf 190, what I define as the last sound before the apocalypse, a revelation of an event; I wish everyone a nice journey.
Thank you, Victor!
© Zeljko Vujkovic - February 2011